Madlanga Commission hearing record
Day 172 of the Madlanga Commission
Witness: Lieutenant General Seswantsho Godfrey Lebeya +1 more
Evidence led by Advocate Lee Segeels-Ncube
The last sitting before the recess put a photograph from a dead man's phone in front of a retired national police chief and asked him to name the five men in it. He said he knew none of them. Then an expert took the panel up to altitude and told it where South Africa sits on the world's organised crime index: seventh out of 193.
The day in brief
What you need to know
- Retired Hawks national head Lieutenant General Godfrey Lebeya concluded his evidence on Wednesday 2 September 2026, closing an appearance that ran across three sitting days: 27 August (Day 168), 1 September (Day 171) and 2 September (Day 172).
- Evidence leader Advocate Lee Segeels-Ncube put up a photograph recovered from the phone of murder-accused businessman Katiso 'KT' Molefe. Per SABC News and EWN, the commission's evidence is that it shows the five men Crime Intelligence has called the 'Big Five': Molefe, Steve Motsumi, Ignatius Mothakathi, the man known as 'King Nyambose', and the late taxi boss Jotham 'Mswazi' Msibi.
- The outlets do not agree on the first name of the man called 'King Nyambose'. SABC News and EWN report him as Andrew 'Boy' Mthethwa; TimesLIVE and The Citizen report him as Jabu Mthethwa. The archive publishes the surname and the alias, and records the discrepancy rather than picking one.
- Lebeya's answer was a blanket denial of knowledge, not of conduct: 'I have no knowledge of that organised criminal grouping at all, and I even doubt if it is registered as an organised crime project.'
- The pressure point was a WhatsApp message of 6 December 2024, the night of the Sandhurst arrest, in which the businessman who uses the name Malcolm X wrote: 'Thank you for sending people who verified these gentlemen are policemen and King Nyambose really appreciates all your efforts general.'
- Lebeya said he did not follow it up: 'I was not really interested in the message itself,' and 'I did not ask him who is this King Nyambose.' Justice Madlanga did not accept that as an ending: 'What were you being thanked for? And who on Earth is this Nyambose?'
- Segeels-Ncube framed the denial against everything the commission has already heard: 'You were the head of the DPCI and there have been generals that have come before the commission who have been afraid to mention some of these individuals. I just find it bizarre that you do not know any of these individuals.'
- Lebeya confirmed he knew that Malcolm X had been arrested in October 2023 together with three police officers on allegations of corruption and extortion, and still took his call about the Sandhurst scene fourteen months later.
- He closed on his own character: 'I am incorruptible.' He has answered every allegation put to him and denies wrongdoing.
- The afternoon changed register entirely. Dr Mark Shaw, executive director of the Global Initiative Against Transnational Organised Crime, gave expert evidence: 'South Africa is in the top 5% of all countries in the world in respect of criminal markets and actors as measured by the index.'
- Per EWN and SABC News, Shaw placed South Africa seventh out of 193 countries on the global organised crime index, said its homicide rate exceeds Colombia's and Mexico's and now resembles Ecuador's, and ranked Gqeberha third in the world among cities affected by territorial gang violence.
- Shaw's recommendations pointed outward: Italy's restructuring of its anti-mafia prosecution system, and legislation covering the unexplained wealth of public officials, which he identified as a gap in South African law.
- The commission rose for its recess. It is dark from 3 to 11 September and resumes on Monday 14 September. Public evidence closes on 2 October and the report to the President is due on 16 November 2026.
- Nothing on this page is a finding. The 'Big Five' is an alleged network, everyone named in the photograph is presumed innocent, none of it has been tested in court, and Lebeya denies the allegations against him.
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The day, in depth
A photograph, five men, and a witness who knew none of them
The commission has spent the better part of a year describing an alleged Gauteng syndicate that Crime Intelligence named the 'Big Five', and until Wednesday it had described it mostly in words: Lieutenant General Dumisani Khumalo's September 2025 evidence, Sergeant Fannie Nkosi's 'group of five', the WhatsApp traffic recovered from Jotham Msibi's phone and led as a full sitting day on 18 August 2026. On Day 172 it put up a picture. Per SABC News, evidence leader Advocate Lee Segeels-Ncube showed the panel an image recovered from the phone of murder-accused businessman Katiso 'KT' Molefe, and identified the men in it as Molefe, private security businessman Steve Motsumi, Ignatius Mothakathi, the man known as 'King Nyambose', and the late taxi boss Jotham 'Mswazi' Msibi. The reporting differs on one detail worth stating rather than smoothing over: SABC News and EWN name 'King Nyambose' as Andrew 'Boy' Mthethwa, while TimesLIVE and The Citizen render him as Jabu Mthethwa. The archive carries the surname and the alias and leaves the first name open. What the picture is evidence of has not been decided. It is a photograph of five men, recovered from a phone, put to a witness. It is not proof that any of them agreed to anything.
The denial, and its shape
Lebeya did not dispute that the men exist or that the commission had heard about them. He said he did not know them and did not know the grouping. Per the African News Agency his formulation was: 'I have no knowledge of that organised criminal grouping at all, and I even doubt if it is registered as an organised crime project' - a police answer, tying knowledge to whether the Hawks had formally registered an organised crime project on it. Per The Citizen he went further on the individuals: 'From my side, I don't know about that organised criminal grouping', 'I don't recall having heard the name of Mr Msibi. For me, I didn't know any of those involved in the taxi industry', and 'From my side, all that I can say is that I don't know this Nyambose, I have never met Nyambose.' Asked how the national head of the Hawks could not know figures the commission has been describing since 2025, he answered with a general proposition: 'I don't think that it is strange that we do not know all people in South Africa. I do not know them.' That is a coherent position and it is his to hold. It also has to sit alongside a message on his own phone.
The message that made the denial expensive
On 6 December 2024, the night the KwaZulu-Natal Political Killings Task Team and the Special Task Force arrested Molefe at his Sandhurst home and Hawks units unexpectedly arrived, the businessman who uses the name Malcolm X sent Lebeya a WhatsApp message. Its text, put to Lebeya on Day 172 and reported by The Citizen and EWN, was: 'Thank you for sending people who verified these gentlemen are policemen and King Nyambose really appreciates all your efforts general,' followed by 'It is a pity the police you sent were not allowed inside the yard and the house.' Lebeya's account of the deployment, given on Day 168 and unchanged since, is that Malcolm X told him people were impersonating Hawks officials at the scene, that he asked Major-General Ebrahim Kadwa and Lieutenant-General Patrick Mbotho whether an authorised operation was running and both said they did not know of one, and that he sent members to verify rather than to intervene. What the message adds is a third party. Somebody who is not Lebeya and not Malcolm X was being thanked on, and was thanking through, that channel. Lebeya's evidence is that he never asked who: 'I was not really interested in the message itself,' and 'I did not ask him who is this King Nyambose.' Neither the message nor its inference has been tested, and Lebeya denies any arrangement.
The chairperson would not let it go
It was Justice Madlanga rather than the evidence leader who pressed hardest, and he pressed on the ordinary human question rather than the legal one. Per The Citizen he asked: 'What were you being thanked for? And who on Earth is this Nyambose?' The force of the question is that Lebeya is not a bystander who received a strange message. He is a career detective who ran the country's elite investigative unit for seven years, and he had, on his own evidence, just deployed members to an address because this same correspondent told him something. Segeels-Ncube put the same point through the record the commission has built: 'You were the head of the DPCI and there have been generals that have come before the commission who have been afraid to mention some of these individuals. I just find it bizarre that you do not know any of these individuals.' The commission has made no finding on whether the denial is truthful. It is now on the record with the question attached to it.
What Lebeya already knew about the man who called him
One admission from Wednesday matters more than it reads. Per The Citizen, Lebeya confirmed he knew that Malcolm X had been arrested in October 2023, together with three police officers, on allegations of corruption and extortion. The Sandhurst call came fourteen months after that. So the position Lebeya asks the commission to accept is that a national head who knew this particular civilian had been arrested in a police-corruption matter nonetheless took his word that impostors were operating at a Sandhurst address, and moved Hawks members on it, without establishing first whether a lawful operation was under way beyond two phone calls that produced no confirmation either way. He has an answer to that, and gave it on Day 168: he was aware of more than thirty cases of people impersonating Hawks officials, and 'a reasonable national head who is aware of the existence of imposters will not sit back and do nothing.' The allegation that the deployment was interference is untested, he denies it, and he is presumed innocent. Malcolm X has not been identified on the public record and the October 2023 charges have not been determined; he too is presumed innocent.
How he chose to end three days of evidence
Lebeya closed on character rather than detail. Per SABC News his summary of forty years of policing was two words - 'I am incorruptible' - and, per TimesLIVE, he framed his career as service: 'I am a tool available to SA to contribute to the development of my beloved country,' while acknowledging that the events of the past year have damaged his reputation. He had already put a version of it on Day 168, when he told the commission he had no friends in the criminal underworld. He also leaves the stand with a practical grievance unresolved: he gave his evidence at his own expense, after the South African Police Service refused his application for state-funded legal representation on 6 January 2026, and after Justice Madlanga told him on 27 August that the commission had no power to help - 'I do not think we can come to the doctor's assistance' - and that his remedy lay in reviewing the police decision. A retired national commissioner-level officer funding his own appearance before a commission of inquiry into the police is a fact about the institution as much as about him.
The afternoon: where South Africa actually sits
The second half of the day was not about any individual. Dr Mark Shaw, executive director of the Global Initiative Against Transnational Organised Crime, appeared as an expert witness and did something the commission has not had done for it before: he put its subject matter on a scale. Per EWN, Shaw testified that 'South Africa is in the top 5% of all countries in the world in respect of criminal markets and actors as measured by the index', placing it alongside Colombia, Mexico, Paraguay, Ecuador, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Nigeria, Lebanon, Turkey and Kenya. On the organised crime index the initiative compiles across 193 countries, South Africa ranks seventh. Its homicide rate, on Shaw's evidence, exceeds those of Colombia and Mexico and now resembles Ecuador's, and Gqeberha ranks third in the world among cities affected by territorial gang violence, with Cape Town also severely affected. He listed the markets - drug trafficking, extortion, financial crime, illicit trade, cybercrime - and described gangs and networks that have been entrenched over decades in communities where repeated state interventions have failed to reach the causes. Per SABC News he tied the standing directly to state capture and to the infiltration of state institutions, which is the commission's own mandate stated in the language of comparative research.
The recommendations, and the gap he named
Shaw did not stop at diagnosis. Per EWN he took the panel through what other jurisdictions have done about the same problem, and the example he developed was Italy's restructuring of its anti-mafia prosecution system - a specialised, centrally coordinated prosecutorial architecture built precisely because ordinary prosecution services could not withstand an organised adversary. He also identified a legislative gap in South Africa: there is no adequate mechanism addressing the unexplained wealth of public officials. That is a recommendation aimed squarely at what this commission keeps running into. Across 2026 the record has filled with officers and officials whose bank accounts do not match their salaries, most recently the sixty-five deposits totalling R1.7 million put to Lieutenant-Colonel Deenadayalan Govender on Day 170. The commission has been able to ask about those deposits. What Shaw is saying is that the state has no standing legal instrument that requires them to be explained. Expert evidence is opinion and recommendation; it is not a finding, and it decides nothing about any individual before the commission.
And then the lights went off
Day 172 was the last public sitting before the break. The commission is in recess from Thursday 3 September to 11 September 2026, seven working days, and resumes on Monday 14 September. Per SAnews the recess is so that two commissioners can honour commitments made when the commission was still due to finish by 31 August; the senior team works through it. Some outlets, including SABC News and EWN, reported on Wednesday that the inquiry returns on 15 September; the commission's own statement of 1 September and eNCA both give Monday 14 September, and that is what the archive publishes until the commission says otherwise. What waits on the other side is a crowded board: Lebeya is finished, but Vusimuzi 'Cat' Matlala is part-heard for a fourth time, Deenadayalan Govender is part-heard, Joe 'Ferrari' Sibanyoni is set down for cross-examination on 21 September, Major-General Feroz Khan's statement is due on 18 September and his evidence on 28 September, and public evidence closes on 2 October. Twelve working days of hearings remain between the resumption and the close of evidence.
In their words
Key moments from the record
“I have no knowledge of that organised criminal grouping at all, and I even doubt if it is registered as an organised crime project.”
“I don't think that it is strange that we do not know all people in South Africa. I do not know them.”
“Thank you for sending people who verified these gentlemen are policemen and King Nyambose really appreciates all your efforts general.”
“I was not really interested in the message itself. I did not ask him who is this King Nyambose.”
“What were you being thanked for? And who on Earth is this Nyambose?”
“You were the head of the DPCI and there have been generals that have come before the commission who have been afraid to mention some of these individuals. I just find it bizarre that you do not know any of these individuals.”
“I am incorruptible.”
“South Africa is in the top 5% of all countries in the world in respect of criminal markets and actors as measured by the index.”
“Repeated state interventions have failed to address the root causes driving the violence.”
Our analysis
The bottom line
The photograph is the first time the commission has shown the 'Big Five' rather than described it, and that shift matters more for the record than for Lebeya. For a year the syndicate has existed in this inquiry as a Crime Intelligence label, a sergeant's 'group of five', and a set of WhatsApp threads off a dead man's phone. A photograph of five named men, recovered from the phone of a sixth who is on trial for murder, is a different kind of exhibit. It is also, on its own, weak proof of anything: people are photographed together for many reasons, and no court has determined that the grouping exists or that any person in the frame agreed to anything.
Lebeya's denial is defensible in form and difficult in context. In form, a national head of the Hawks genuinely cannot know every name that passes through an inquiry, and the honest answer to a photograph you do not recognise is that you do not recognise it. In context, the men in the picture are not obscure to this commission, and one of them was being thanked through Lebeya's own phone on the night of an arrest he is accused of disrupting. The distance between those two things is what Madlanga's question was measuring, and Lebeya's answer left it where it was.
The most revealing exchange of the day was not about the cartel at all. It was Segeels-Ncube saying that generals have come before this commission afraid to mention these individuals. That is an observation about the institution rather than about Lebeya: the evidence leaders are telling the panel, on the record, that senior police witnesses have visibly hesitated around certain names. Against that background, a blanket 'I do not know them' from the most senior investigator of the lot reads to the evidence leaders as another instance of the same reflex. The commission did not decide which reading is right, and it does not have to yet.
The October 2023 admission is the piece that will outlive the day. Lebeya knew that the civilian who called him about Sandhurst had been arrested with three police officers in a corruption and extortion matter. That does not make his conduct improper, and there are legitimate reasons a police chief keeps a line open to a person with a criminal history. But it removes one available defence, which is that he did not know who he was dealing with. Whatever the deployment was, it was not made in ignorance of the caller's record.
Putting Shaw on the same day as the photograph was, deliberately or not, good architecture. The morning was a man saying he did not know five people. The afternoon was a researcher explaining that the country in which that answer was given ranks seventh in the world for organised crime, with a homicide rate above Colombia's, and a city ranked third globally for territorial gang violence. The commission's difficulty all year has been that its individual strands look like separate scandals. Shaw's evidence is the argument that they are one condition, measured.
Shaw's unexplained-wealth point is the recommendation most likely to survive into the report, because the record already demonstrates the gap he named. Across 2026 the commission has repeatedly reached the same wall: an officer's bank account does not match his salary, the officer offers an account of it, and there is no standing legal mechanism that compels the explanation or reverses the position if it fails. Sixty-five deposits totalling R1.7 million put to Lieutenant-Colonel Govender on Day 170 is the freshest example. A commission can ask. A statute would require.
The calendar is now the binding constraint. Public evidence closes on 2 October and the commission is dark until 14 September, which leaves roughly twelve working days of hearings. Into that window it must fit Khan on 28 September if he comes, Sibanyoni's cross-examination on 21 September, and the continuation of at least two part-heard witnesses. Lebeya finishing is the first name the commission has been able to take off that board in a fortnight.
Analysis is the archive’s own comment on the public proceedings, grounded in the record above. It weighs the evidence and the process; questions of individual guilt are for the courts and the commission to decide. Everyone named is presumed innocent.
On the record
Who testified this day
Follow the threads
Who Lieutenant General Seswantsho Godfrey Lebeya connects to
Katiso 'KT' Molefe
Lebeya is alleged to have caused Hawks units to be deployed to Molefe's Sandhurst home during his arrest on 6 December 2024. On Day 168 he denied knowing Molefe at all and said he was contacted by a third party. Untested; both are presumed innocent.
View profile →The general he says should have told himLieutenant-General Dumisani Khumalo
On Day 168 Lebeya said the obligation to inform the national head of the operation to arrest Molefe sat with the provincial commissioner in consultation with Khumalo, and that he was never told. Khumalo has not answered that account before the commission; untested, both presumed innocent.
View profile →The complaint he took to the NDPPAdvocate Andrea Johnson
Evidence in July 2026 was that a misconduct complaint about Johnson reached Lebeya, who put it to then NDPP Shamila Batohi and asked for an independent prosecutor. On Day 168 Lebeya confirmed he discussed the allegations with Batohi. Untested; Johnson denies the surrounding allegations and is presumed innocent.
View profile →The other side of the Sandhurst operationLieutenant-General Nhlanhla Mkhwanazi
The 6 December 2024 arrest was carried out by the KwaZulu-Natal Political Killings Task Team, the unit at the centre of Lieutenant General Mkhwanazi's July 2025 allegations and of this commission's mandate. Lebeya's evidence is that the Hawks were verifying an impostor claim, not interfering. Untested.
View profile →The name in the thank-you message he says he never asked aboutMthethwa, known as 'King Nyambose'
On Day 172 the commission put to Lebeya a WhatsApp message of 6 December 2024 in which Malcolm X thanked him on behalf of 'King Nyambose'. Lebeya said he never asked who that was and has never met him. The chairperson pressed him on it. Untested; both are presumed innocent.
View profile →Named in the photograph he was shownIgnatius Mothakathi
Mothakathi is one of the five men the commission's evidence identifies in a photograph recovered from Katiso Molefe's phone and shown to Lebeya on Day 172. Lebeya said he did not know any of them. The 'Big Five' is an alleged network and Mothakathi has not answered anything before the commission; presumed innocent.
View profile →Shared the last sitting day before the recessDr Mark Shaw
Lebeya concluded his evidence on the morning of Day 172; Dr Mark Shaw of the Global Initiative Against Transnational Organised Crime gave expert evidence the same afternoon, placing South Africa seventh of 193 countries on the global organised crime index. Expert opinion evidence, not a finding about any individual.
View profile →His provincial head, and now his contradictionMajor General Lesetja Senona
Senona ran the KwaZulu-Natal Hawks while Lebeya was national head, and directed that the seized cocaine be stored at Port Shepstone. On Day 171 Lebeya said he was never told where it was; Senona's evidence to this commission is that he told him. Evidence leader Advocate Lee Segeels-Ncube put it that one of them must be lying or both mistaken; Lebeya would not say Senona had lied. No finding has been made on either account and both are presumed innocent.
View profile →In the room & on the record
Counsel, the panel and sources
Evidence led by
- Advocate Lee Segeels-Ncube
On the panel
- Justice Mbuyiseli Madlanga (chairperson)
Sources
- TimesLIVE - I don't know about Big Five cartel, ex-Hawks head Lebeya tells Madlanga commission (2 Sep 2026) ↗
- The Citizen - 'We don't know all people in SA': Lebeya denies knowing alleged 'Big Five' cartel figures (2 Sep 2026) ↗
- EWN - Photos of alleged 'Big Five' syndicate members revealed as former Hawks head concludes evidence (2 Sep 2026) ↗
- SABC News - Image of 'Big Five' cartel figures revealed at Madlanga Commission (2 Sep 2026) ↗
- African News Agency - 'I have no knowledge': Lebeya denies knowing Big Five cartel (2 Sep 2026) ↗
- EWN - Madlanga Commission: SA ranked in top 5% globally for organised crime (2 Sep 2026) ↗
- SABC News - SA among top 10 countries affected by organised crime: GI-TOC (2 Sep 2026) ↗
- The Citizen - Madlanga commission tells ex-Hawks boss Lebeya it can't help in legal funding dispute (27 Aug 2026) ↗
- EWN - Lebeya claims he acted on call from 'civilian' regarding Molefe's takedown operation (28 Aug 2026) ↗
- Business Day - 'I have no friends in underworld,' says former Hawks boss Lebeya (28 Aug 2026) ↗
- SAnews - Madlanga Commission to go into short recess (1 Sep 2026) ↗
- eNCA - Madlanga Commission to take two-week break (31 Aug 2026) ↗