Madlanga Commission hearing record
Day 192 of the Madlanga Commission
Witness: Vusimuzi 'Cat' Matlala
The third day, and the evidence turned to a former cabinet minister. Two readings of it went out on the night: that Matlala disowned the passage of his statement incriminating Bheki Cele as something IDAC made him write, and that he then described, at length, money he says he handed over anyway. Mr Cele has denied receiving anything from him, twice on the record, and is presumed innocent.

The day in brief
What you need to know
- NOTHING ON THIS PAGE IS A FINDING, and on this day that warning carries more weight than usual. Mr Bheki Cele has not been charged with anything arising from these allegations, has denied them on the record to Parliament and to the press, and is presumed innocent. The man making them is an accused person giving evidence from custody under subpoena who told this same commission on Monday and Tuesday that large parts of the same document were written for him by investigators.
- THE OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT FOR THIS DAY IS NOT YET PUBLISHED and the official hearings row for it does not yet exist. This page is written from reporting and will be rewritten from the record. On the three previous days the transcript moved facts that every bulletin had carried the same way.
- THE TWO HEADLINES POINT IN OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS AND BOTH ARE REPORTED. The Mail and Guardian led on Matlala saying IDAC investigators coerced him into incriminating Cele. The IOL network and the Daily Sun led on the detail of money he says he did hand over. They are not necessarily inconsistent: his position as reported is that he gave Cele money, that the amount in the statement was exaggerated, and that the surrounding allegation of a corrupt arrangement over the Medicare24 contract was inserted.
- HIS WORDS ON THE DOCUMENT, per the Mail and Guardian: 'I did give Cele money but that money was exaggerated. Because now they wanted to charge him with corruption.' He is reported as denying paragraph 86 of the section 204 statement, which recorded that he had known of Cele previously because Cele 'used to visit the late Msibi from time to time' and that Msibi 'would tell me that he was giving Cele lots of money'.
- THE SEQUENCE HE DESCRIBES, per the IOL network and the Daily Sun: R500 000 withdrawn from a Medicare account on 9 January 2025 and R200 000 the next day; the cash taken to his penthouse at The Capital in Menlyn Maine; an agreement on R1 million; a later R300 000 handed over at the Beverly Hills hotel in Durban as the balance.
- WHAT HE SAYS WAS ASKED FOR AND NOT PAID: a R6 million retirement property at Trafalgar in KwaZulu-Natal, with photographs sent and a proposal that he fly to Margate to view it and that Cele's son invoice for it; and R300 000 for repairs to Cele's and his wife's vehicles, for which he says he travelled to KwaZulu-Natal on 9 May 2025 and then did not collect the cash.
- THE AMOUNTS DO NOT RECONCILE AND THE ARCHIVE DOES NOT FORCE THEM TO. The statement is reported as referring to R700 000; Matlala is reported as telling the commission the figure was R300 000. The Daily Sun places the Beverly Hills handover in March 2025; the Mail and Guardian places his single meeting with Cele at the Beverly Hills hotel between 23 and 26 December 2024.
- THE DENIAL IS OLD AND CONSISTENT. Per the Daily Sun, Mr Cele told Parliament's ad hoc committee on 24 October 2025 that he had never received cash from Matlala, and repeated it to the Sunday Times on 3 October 2026 in answer to a police forensic report: 'If they say I got money, they must show me bank receipts which show that I received the money.'
- WHAT HE SAYS CELE DID FOR HIM, per IOL: he raised his trouble with the Political Killings Task Team, which had raided his house the week before, and Cele 'undertook to assist in resolving the impasse' and told him he was caught up in a 'Zulu War'. Per IOL he also said Cele raised the Medicare24 contract himself and said he knew Minister Senzo Mchunu had instructed SAPS management to look into it.
- HE NAMES OTHER TARGETS OF THE SAME ALLEGED PRESSURE, per the Mail and Guardian: SAPS head of legal services Mr Simo Chamane, Crime Intelligence head Lieutenant-General Dumisani Khumalo, and Major-General Sandrah Thema. None of them is accused of anything by this evidence; the allegation is about what investigators are said to have wanted from a witness.
- HELD, NOT RELIED ON: the Daily Sun alone reports that the R700 000 was carried in a Woolworths shopping bag and that Matlala described the former minister as 'operating like a jukebox, you have to pay for something to happen'. One outlet is a hold under this archive's own rule, and both are recorded as that.
Full coverage
The day, in depth
Why there was a third day at all
This sitting exists because of an argument on Tuesday afternoon. Evidence leader Advocate Mahlape Sello SC told the panel that the commission had been allocated only 9 and 10 November by the judge hearing Matlala's criminal trial, that the trial was not sitting for the rest of the week, and that the evidence could not be finished in the time. Matlala's counsel said she was not available on the Wednesday; the chairperson refused to accept a categorical statement without an explanation, Commissioner Advocate Sesi Baloyi SC pointed out that another witness was already scheduled and had been moved aside, and after a short adjournment the representatives reached an agreement. The chairperson's last words on Tuesday were an undertaking about this day: 'tomorrow we will sit until we finish regardless of what time that will be. We will sit until we finish.' The official transcript of this day has not yet been published and this page is written from reporting; it will be rewritten from the record.
Two readings of the same day
The coverage split along a line worth understanding, because at first glance the headlines contradict each other. The Mail and Guardian, under the byline of Nkateko Joseph Mabasa at 12:37, reported that Matlala told the commission he was coerced into giving incriminating evidence against the former police minister Bheki Cele in what he called a factional battle with the Investigating Directorate Against Corruption. The IOL network and the Daily Sun, later the same day, reported the detail of money he says he did hand over. The two are reconcilable on the reporting itself. His position as reported is not that he never gave Cele money; it is that the amount recorded in his section 204 statement was exaggerated, that the long acquaintance the statement describes was invented, and that the characterisation of the money as payment for help with the Medicare24 contract was inserted by investigators who wanted Cele charged. This archive sets both out and adopts neither as settled.
The paragraph he disowns
Per the Mail and Guardian the disputed passage is paragraph 86 of the section 204 statement, which recorded that Matlala had known of Cele previously because Cele 'used to visit the late Msibi from time to time', and that 'I do remember that Msibi would tell me that he was giving Cele lots of money.' Mr Jotham Msibi, the taxi businessman known as King Mswazi who was shot dead in 2022, already sits at the centre of several threads in this commission's record. Matlala is reported as saying he saw Cele once at Msibi's funeral and once at the Beverly Hills hotel, and that the statement's long history was built for him: per the Mail and Guardian he said investigators told him 'You need to create a history as you used to see him with Mr Msibi before', and that 'That's why they ended up putting this paragraph here.' He is reported as saying IDAC wanted to strip Cele of power and 'deal with him thereafter', and that the same approach was used to build links to the SAPS head of legal services Mr Simo Chamane, Crime Intelligence head Lieutenant-General Dumisani Khumalo and Major-General Sandrah Thema. None of those three is accused of anything by this evidence.
The money he says he did pay
The account carried by the IOL network, under the byline of Kamogelo Moichela, and by the Daily Sun, under the byline of Rejoice Ndlovu, is consistent between them on its spine. Word reached Matlala through the late Bongani Mpungose, known as Mabonga, that Cele would travel to Pretoria towards the end of January 2025. Matlala withdrew R500 000 from a Medicare account on 9 January 2025 and R200 000 the following day. Cele arrived at Matlala's penthouse at The Capital in Menlyn Maine with security, Mabonga present, and Matlala says he told him he had brought his parcel and was told to put it on the table. On this account Cele stayed at the penthouse three or four times, the two agreed on R1 million, and Cele asked for 'something small' upfront, after which Matlala paid R10 000 and a further R7 000 against WhatsApp requests with different banking details that he later concluded had not come from Cele at all. The balance, he says, was handed over at the Beverly Hills hotel in Durban: R300 000 taken from his protector and placed on the back seat of Cele's vehicle. Per the Daily Sun that handover was in March 2025. The Daily Sun alone reports that the R700 000 was carried in a Woolworths shopping bag, a detail that already has its own place in this record from the parliamentary hearings, and this archive records it as single-outlet for this day.
What he says was asked for and never paid
Two requests are reported that Matlala says he did not meet. The first is a retirement property at Trafalgar on the KwaZulu-Natal south coast, valued at about R6 million: per both outlets Cele sent photographs, proposed that Matlala fly to Margate to be collected and shown the place, and suggested that his son, an engineer, invoice for the work so the payments could be explained. The second is R300 000 for repairs to Cele's vehicle and his wife's. Matlala says he travelled to KwaZulu-Natal on 9 May 2025 to collect that cash through a Durban businessman, did not collect it, and then ignored Cele's repeated calls. The quotation both outlets carry is his account of being pressed: 'He said to me that I must make sure that I pay him for helping me as he said, I don't work for you.' Per the Daily Sun he also linked the Trafalgar request to promises about his firearm difficulties and about introductions to senior police officials. All of this is one man's untested account of conversations with another man who denies taking anything from him.
What he says Cele promised
Per IOL the inducement on the other side of the ledger was help. Matlala said he raised his trouble with the Political Killings Task Team, which had raided his house the week before the December meeting: 'I relayed to him my challenges with the PKTT and what transpired in my house', and Cele 'undertook to assist in resolving the impasse'. Per IOL he was also told he was caught up in a 'Zulu War'. On the contract, per IOL, he said Cele raised the Medicare24 matter himself and said he knew that Minister Senzo Mchunu had instructed SAPS management to look into it, which Cele is reported as calling a mistake because a minister should not involve himself in SAPS operational matters. A broader claim is reported about influence over whether the contract would be terminated, and about a civil claim of about R300 million against the SAPS that Matlala says was expected to be settled out of court. There is a tension in the reporting here that this archive does not resolve: one line of coverage has him denying that Cele ever offered to assist with the Medicare24 contract and saying that passage was inserted by IDAC, while IOL has him describing Cele raising the contract unprompted. The transcript will settle it.
The denial, and why it is older than this day
Mr Cele's position is not new and it is not a no-comment. Per the Daily Sun he told Parliament's ad hoc committee investigating police corruption, on 24 October 2025, that he had never received cash from Matlala. He repeated it to the Sunday Times on 3 October 2026, answering a SAPS forensic report that alleged he had received money and other benefits from companies linked to Matlala: 'If they say I got money, they must show me bank receipts which show that I received the money.' He has also said publicly that he stayed at Matlala's penthouse and questioned what is wrong with that. He has not been charged with any offence arising from these allegations. The forensic report that recommended prosecution is a recommendation and not a decision, and the National Prosecuting Authority has taken no step on it that is on the public record. Nothing said at this commission changes any of that, and nothing on this page should be read as a finding against him.
In their words
Key moments from the record
“I did give Cele money but that money was exaggerated. Because now they wanted to charge him with corruption.”
“You need to create a history as you used to see him with Mr Msibi before ... That's why they ended up putting this paragraph here.”
“I had known of Cele previously as he used to visit the late Msibi from time to time. ... I do remember that Msibi would tell me that he was giving Cele lots of money.”
“He said to me that I must make sure that I pay him for helping me as he said, 'I don't work for you'”
“I relayed to him my challenges with the PKTT and what transpired in my house ... he undertook to assist in resolving the impasse.”
“He also informed me that I am caught up in a 'Zulu War.'”
“If they say I got money, they must show me bank receipts which show that I received the money,”
Our analysis
The bottom line
This is the most defamation-sensitive day of the week and it should be read slowly. A witness who has spent two days telling this commission that his own sworn statement was written for him by people who wanted other people charged is now using the same statement as the launch pad for an allegation against a former cabinet minister. That does not make him wrong. It does mean the evidence arrives with its own credibility problem already on the record, raised by the commissioners themselves, and that a reader who takes the Cele account at face value has to explain why the same witness's account of the Sibiya payments reversed overnight on Monday.
The structure of what he says is worth isolating from the noise. He is not alleging that an invented relationship produced invented payments. He is alleging that real payments were made, that the figure was inflated in the document, and that the corrupt purpose attached to them by the investigators was not his. That is a narrower claim than either headline suggests, and it is also the shape of claim that documents can test: bank withdrawals on stated dates, hotel records, phone traffic, and the SAPS forensic work that the Sunday Times reported in October. If the dates of the withdrawals on 9 and 10 January 2025 are right, they are the kind of fact that does not depend on believing him.
Mr Cele's answer has been the same for more than a year and it is a precise one: show me the bank receipts. It is precise because on this account the money never went near a bank account of his. Cash handed over in a penthouse and on a car seat leaves no receipt by design, which is why the forensic work reported in October looked instead at the pattern of withdrawals from Matlala's companies around the dates of their meetings. That is a long way from proof of anything, and he has not been charged. But it is the reason the demand for receipts does not settle the question in either direction.
The archive is publishing this day on reporting alone, with the official transcript still to come, and that is a risk it should name. On each of the three preceding days the transcript corrected something every outlet had carried identically: a statutory citation, the contents of paragraph 60, the identity of a 'Fannie'. The figures on this day are already inconsistent between outlets, and the single most quotable line, about a jukebox, rests on one newspaper. Those are exactly the things the record has been moving. Readers should treat the spine of the account as reported and the detail as provisional until the transcript lands.
Analysis is the archive’s own comment on the public proceedings, grounded in the record above. It weighs the evidence and the process; questions of individual guilt are for the courts and the commission to decide. Everyone named is presumed innocent.
On the record
Who testified this day
Follow the threads
Who Vusimuzi 'Cat' Matlala connects to
Dylan Perumal
On Day 190 Matlala told the commission that the suspended IDAC chief investigator typed the section 204 statement from his collapsed plea and sentence agreement, produced several versions of it and inserted material he had not said, and that IDAC officials booked him out of custody at night to press him for information on senior police generals. Perumal has never testified before this commission and has answered none of it. Untested; both presumed innocent.
View profile →Denies having moved money between him and SibiyaSerge Cabonge
On the recording played at Sibiya's bail hearing on 13 October 2026, Cabonge says 'Me, Cat, and Sibiya never did anything. I've never collected money from Cat to give to Sibiya', and alleges the two dealt through suspended Sergeant Fannie Nkosi instead. A denial on a private recording, not evidence before this commission. Untested; both presumed innocent.
View profile →The forensic services brigadier who told this commission they were in a relationshipBrigadier Rachel Matjeng
Per Eyewitness News, the Sowetan and IOL, Brigadier Rachel Matjeng told the commission on Days 54 and 55 that she and Matlala had been in an intermittent romantic relationship since 2017, that the money and gifts she received from him were personal and unrelated to the roughly R360 million SAPS health-services tender his linked company won, that she sat on none of the bid committees, and that she had in fact stepped in to stop the SAPS 'bleeding millions' to the contract. They are co-accused in the criminal prosecution over that tender, both arrested in the same 24 March 2026 operation. Reporting on his plea admissions says he stated he paid her R300,000 in connection with the tender; she has never accepted that characterisation, and he pleaded guilty on 25 June 2026 and then withdrew from the deal. Nothing in that prosecution has been determined and both are presumed innocent.
View profile →The sergeant he says collected cash, and who says the gifts came from himSergeant Fannie Nkosi
Per the Daily Maverick and Business Day, Matlala told the commission on Day 167 that suspended Sergeant Fannie Nkosi collected cash on Lieutenant-General Shadrack Sibiya's behalf, while refusing to name names because he did not want to incriminate himself with recordings under investigation. Nkosi's own March 2026 evidence ran in the other direction, describing gifts from Matlala to Sibiya including 20 live impala. Neither account has been tested and everyone named is presumed innocent.
View profile →The subject of his evidence on Day 192, and both named in the police forensic reportBheki Cele
On 11 November 2026 Matlala gave evidence about Mr Cele to this commission for the first time: that IDAC investigators coerced him into incriminating him and exaggerated the sum, and separately that he withdrew R500 000 and R200 000 in January 2025, delivered cash to his own penthouse at The Capital in Menlyn Maine, and later handed over R300 000 at a Durban hotel. He had earlier told the commission that Cele arranged his 15 April 2025 Umhlanga meeting with Mkhwanazi and told him to keep up his dealings with Brown Mogotsi, and told Parliament he paid Cele R500,000 in 2025. Per the Sunday Times of 3 October 2026 a SAPS forensic report recommends prosecuting both over the Medicare24 contract; nobody has been charged on it. Mr Cele denies receiving any money from him. Untested; both presumed innocent.
View profile →Head of the prisons service holding himMakgothi Samuel Thobakgale
Matlala is held at the Kgosi Mampuru II Correctional Centre in Pretoria, run by the Department of Correctional Services under National Commissioner Makgothi Thobakgale. The department rejected his legal team's August 2026 complaint that consultations had been obstructed. On 17 September 2026 Thobakgale gave the commission evidence on prison gangs and the grooming of officials; he did not give evidence about Matlala. Matlala has pleaded not guilty in his criminal trial and is presumed innocent.
View profile →Named in the taxi messages read into the record on Day 179Bafana 'King of the Sky' Sindane
Per Sowetan the WhatsApp evidence the commission led on 28 September 2026, in Sindane's absence, shows Sindane and Joe 'Ferrari' Sibanyoni sharing the personal details of people described as drug runners linked to Matlala and operating in Tshwane, shortly after Matlala's arrest for attempted murder; per The Citizen what the messages show is the pair tracking Matlala, whom it calls a rival tenderpreneur, and forwarding media reports about him to associates. The two outlets describe the same strand differently and both readings are recorded here. Matlala has not answered this material, none of it is tested, and he is presumed innocent.
View profile →The taxi boss he is charged with trying to killMadoda Johannes 'Joe Ferrari' Sibanyoni
Matlala and four co-accused have pleaded not guilty to 25 charges, including eleven counts of attempted murder, arising from the 10 August 2022 shooting of Joe 'Ferrari' Sibanyoni at the Centurion Golf and Country Club estate. The trial began on 21 July 2026 with Sibanyoni as the state's first witness. On Day 169 Sibanyoni told the commission that Matlala's association with the late Jotham Msibi was one reason he feared for his life. Untested; Matlala denies the charges and is presumed innocent.
View profile →Named alongside him in the Big Five evidenceKatiso 'KT' Molefe
Crime Intelligence head Lieutenant General Dumisani Khumalo named both men in September 2025 among the alleged leaders of the same Gauteng syndicate. Matlala has since testified under subpoena; Molefe has never appeared before the commission. Untested; both presumed innocent.
View profile →Alleged funderSuleiman Carrim
Evidence leaders described Carrim, with Hangwani Maumela, as one of the apparent funders behind Matlala's R360m Medicare24 tender; Carrim testified that Matlala and Brown Mogotsi 'played' him. Untested allegations.
View profile →Medicare24 / alleged cocaine dealMichael van Wyk
Matlala ran Medicare Tshwane District as a franchise of van Wyk's Medicare24 Holdings; their WhatsApp chats were led as an alleged 'get me a good price' cocaine deal. Untested; both presumed innocent (van Wyk on all counts).
View profile →Blue-lights arrangementJulius Mkhwanazi
Evidence tied Matlala's Cat VIP Protection to a draft EMPD memorandum and 'blue lights' arrangement alongside Mkhwanazi. Untested allegations.
View profile →Alleged co-conduitOupa 'Brown' Mogotsi
Carrim testified that Mogotsi and Matlala together 'played' him into the tender deal; money allegedly flowed to Mogotsi from the Medicare24 chain. On Day 160 Matlala said 'I actually hate him', described paying him up to R150,000, and said Bheki Cele told him to maintain the relationship. Mogotsi denies wrongdoing; untested.
View profile →Denied on the recordSenzo Mchunu
On Day 160 Matlala told the commission 'I have never met Minister Mchunu and have had no interactions with him', allowing only correspondence between their attorneys. A denial, not a finding.
View profile →Denied on the recordMajor-General Feroz Khan
Matlala denied ever meeting or interacting with the suspended Crime Intelligence deputy head on Day 160. A denial, not a finding.
View profile →Admitted meeting; agenda described on Day 167Lieutenant-General Nhlanhla Mkhwanazi
Matlala confirmed on Day 160 that he had met the KZN commissioner but claimed the privilege over what was discussed. On Day 167 he described it: Umhlanga, 15 April 2025, arranged by former police minister Bheki Cele, with Maj-Gen Lesetja Senona present; he wanted an introduction to the police human resources head over his company's non-performance, and he raised payments made to Lt-Gen Shadrack Sibiya by other people. Untested.
View profile →The friendship the commission spent Day 167 testingMajor General Lesetja Senona
Named among the affidavit omissions Matlala was recalled on Day 165 to explain, and the whole subject of Day 167. Matlala called him 'not friends but he's my older brother', said the general lent him R20,000 after the 6 December 2024 raid, confirmed WhatsApp advice of 13 May 2025 about challenging the Medicare24 cancellation, and refused to discuss a flat bought with Senona and his son Thato because his conduct with the general is under investigation. Untested; both presumed innocent.
View profile →LenderSteve Motsumi
Per SABC News and Business Day, Matlala confirmed a R5 million loan from Motsumi in 2024 under an acknowledgement of debt, repaid in 2025, and an unsuccessful approach for a further R20 million in 2025 to keep the Medicare24 contract alive. Untested; both presumed innocent.
View profile →Named among the omissions he was called back to explainMajor-General Richard Shibiri
Per SABC News and eNCA, the omissions Matlala was called back on Day 165 to explain included the name of the dismissed former head of the SAPS organised crime component. Nothing was tested on the day and Shibiri is presumed innocent.
View profile →Alleged gifts; refused to answerLieutenant-General Shadrack Sibiya
Asked about a recording said to discuss 20 live impala delivered to Sibiya's farm in March 2024, Matlala said on Day 160 'I do not want to incriminate myself because I know that the recordings are under investigation'. Untested; Sibiya is presumed innocent.
View profile →Named him from the standJotham 'King Mswazi' Msibi
On Day 160 Matlala said he knew three Gauteng businessmen linked to alleged criminal syndicates and named the late taxi boss Jotham 'King Mswazi' Msibi among them. The next sitting day, with Matlala stood down to 24 August, the commission spent entirely on evidence extracted from Msibi's phone. Untested; both presumed innocent.
View profile →Joint venture he described on Day 166Hangwani 'Morgan' Maumela
On 25 August 2026, once the commission established he is not a suspect in the SIU's Tembisa Hospital matter and so could not claim the privilege on the subject, Matlala described a joint venture with Maumela dating to about 2015 or 2016: roughly R1 million each into a joint supplier account, Gauteng health department quotations answered through a shared company, ten percent each on the other's deals. He also said he introduced Maumela to Jotham Msibi over a Pagani Huayra. Untested; Maumela has not answered it and is presumed innocent.
View profile →In the room & on the record
Counsel, the panel and sources
On the panel
Sources
- Mail & Guardian, Nkateko Joseph Mabasa - 'Idac investigators forced me to lie about Bheki Cele,' Matlala says (11 Nov 2026, 12:37) ↗
- Daily News / IOL, Kamogelo Moichela - Matlala alleges Bheki Cele sought R700,000, vehicle money and R6m retirement home (11 Nov 2026) ↗
- Daily Sun, Rejoice Ndlovu - Cat: Cele was like a jukebox! (11 Nov 2026) ↗
- IOL, Kamogelo Moichela - WATCH: 'I met Cele at Beverly Hills hotel' - Matlala returns to Madlanga hot seat (11 Nov 2026) ↗
- SABC News - LIVE | Madlanga Commission of Inquiry Day 192 (11 Nov 2026, 09:16) ↗
- Madlanga Commission - official transcript, Day 191, 10 November 2026 (for the undertaking to sit today) ↗